On May 21, 2010, I went ahead and sent John; of Backlinks Philippines, my site information to backlink. His team immediately started backlinking and I saw my ranks already improving after 1 week. My site had already doubled its income from the previous month’s earnings in just 1 week alone.
Then something happened. Yup, the Mayday update. For me it effected my sites on June 2, 2010. At that point, my site John’s team was working with seemed to have disappeared just like the rest of my micro niche sites. Everyday since June 2nd, I have frantically checked to see where this particular site was ranking and everyday it was the same thing; beyond page 10 in the SERPs. Today it is at #37! That is some major progress at least in regards to returning from the abyss of SERPs. I love that John’s service provided some web 2.0 properties and not just relying on forum profiles. Seeing this small step in recovery from the Mayday update seems to suggest truth in what many have said all along…backlinks is the life line for a website. So I am definitely convinced now that how to recover from the Mayday Update involves building backlinks and some patience.
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It’s true, I was affected by MayDay as well but my sites with strong backlinks have been fine. But those with little to no backlinks, have left the first few pages of google.
I do wish that I didn’t get so sidetracked with trying to find faster methods to back link all my sites. I should have just stuck to John’s preferred method of article marketing.
yep, we cant escape it, backlinking in some form is needed. Its boring, time consuming work, but it has to be done.
Im strongly considering using UAW…. mike iser seems to have done well with it
Yes, UAW seems to be great for an initial boost. Right now i just checked up on a site that I submitted 1 UAW article to back in march and it is showing I have 8 articles posted from that run. Which is not bad. Perhaps more will show as they get crawled and indexed.
I still stand by the fact that a majority of them will drop off after 1+ years considering that I posted 2 articles with UAW for my most successful niche blog 18 months ago and at first I had 53 articles posted from the run but when I checked the backlinks for it yesterday, only 6 remain.
I still think in regards to John’s article marketing strategy, it is evident that article marketing through the higher PR directories is the way to go. My friend Jon has let me peek at several of his sites and I let him peek at mine and he has only ever used ezines and goarticles for backlinks and none of his sites budged during the mayday update. Most of his sites are 1 page sites, have 9 or more ezine article submissions and are LSI heavy. His content is also 500-1,000 words and he uses several images throughout the content and a youtube video whenever he can.
This is the reason I have had a hard time understanding what is going on with this update. I have sites with just article backlinks and they are still ranked the same as always with the same earnings.
It really is a backlink issue more so than a long tail keyword issue. Certain types of backlinks don’t have as much value anymore.
I think its coming down to 2 things; quality of back links and on page SEO (LSI specifically). For example I just checked on one of my sites that is sandboxed and it has 168 back links all coming from blog comments, UAW runs and Traffic Kahuna runs (syndicate kahuna specifically). So you would think that would have been enough back link juice to help it and yet it is still beyond page 10 in the SERPs.
Sara,
Are you saying that you wish you’ve only done article backlinking even though you also like Jthe Phillipines service? I wasn’t sure if you were saying that you thought web 2.0/forum links are controversial or not (or controversial in certain quantities)?
Debbie
I do mean that I wish I had stuck to John’s (xfactor) strategy of using article marketing and that I didn’t get sidetracked by all the other bells and whistle article submission services. I was juggling, traffic kahuna, UAW, blog blueprint and on only a few sites I was able to get in some forum profile backlinks via terry kyle packets. It was too much and it seems had I just done what John (xfactor) suggested as far as writing a few articles for the sites and then moving on, perhaps I would not have had my sites effected so much by mayday.
Sorry for the confusion but I will try to make it more clear. I do not regret using John’s Backlinks Philippines service. I saw some major progress by using it. Check out in this photo I posted yesterday. My site John was backlinking is #30 on that screenshot. look at those earnings. It was only able to do double earnings BECAUSE of those backlinks he was providing me.
Reading about your experience with John’s team made me look into it more carefully. My conclusion is that while it might be a good service, I decided to go the route of intensifying my efforts to finding a good VA.
John’s cheapest profile cost is $0.24; one might get more links per profile, but for the sake of the exercise, I’ll just say that one link cost is 24 cents.
I believe that it is realistic for a VA to be able to register about 25 backlinks profiles per day, besides other tasks that she might be able to help with, like articles uploading and setting up WordPress blogs, just to spice up her day.
From my recent experience interviewing a few people for a VA position, I believe that a $200 salary for a reliable person is a sound price.
Therefore, the cost of getting 800 backlinks with John’s help is exactly the same with the cost of hiring a VA. For me, looking at John’s packages from this perspective, it suddenly seems very expensive.
Of course, there are other things to be taken into consideration, like the headache of dealing with a VA per se. Therefore, in my opinion, if you are in need of a quick bump in the SERPs, then John’s service seems good; but if you are in for the long run, recruiting and training a good VA is the way to go.
Aww but the secret is the method in which John performs his backlinks service. He double passes them when makes the links more likely to stick. you can build 800 links a month but if your VA is just slapping on the links right away, many of your profiles will be deleted.
Also, I suggest you tell your VA to use “male” sounding usernames. According to Ton Goodwin, you men are perverts and if there is any woman-sounding name being registered on the forum then expect the profile to be looked at immediately once registered. Chances are if it gets noticed and they see you added links right away, your profile will be flagged.
Well Sara, I don’t know about all men being perverts, but your advice is certainly useful and I’ll consider it.
I am afraid though that I don’t know what you mean exactly with “double passes them” and “slapping on the links right away”; this is too high of a IM jargon for me.
Are you referring about placing the links while registering a forum profile or about placing links within forum comments later on?
I’m sure all men are perverts…somewhere in there, there’s a pervert waiting to happen.
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Double pass means he creates the accounts and confirms the registration but he does not place any links into the profile at that point. If he waits a few days, then his new “profile” has dropped off that “newly registered” list. You know how when you register on forums near the active online list it will show users that just signed up? Well, if you show up as a new user on that list, your profile is going to be viewed by active members. So the idea here is to wait until you’ve been knocked off that list which is usually 24-48 hours and then return to your profile and add your links. This increases the chances of your links sticking.
Typically what most people do is that they register for the account, confirm their account and then immediately place their links on the profile. Thus increasing the chances of all that hard work going down the drain as active members check out the profile and see the links right away. They see the links and know you are not a genuine member. They think you’re a bot and flag your profile.
Thank you, Sara; I knew about this strategy, but I didn’t know the name of it. I suppose I should spend more time on backlinks forums, but I barely manage to post my articles the way things are right now…
Ah! thanks for the definition. I thought he was referring to heart surgery…
thats so true! I did a through runs using girls names just as an experiments. Usually, nobody visits my profiles, but quite often the girls profiles had several visitors. I even got some pm’s lol…
Why aren’t there any single female webmasters looking at profiles? No emancipation.. the guys are always expected to make the first step
I think Dan is right about the economy of things, depending on how proficient your VA is of course. Right now, my VA is doing about 1200 profile links a month (three runs of 400 links, using a double pass method), and she also does other tasks as well such as my daily Blog BluePrint submissions, for $250 a month (although she gets a raise to $300 a month soon). If I were to calculate her pay “per link”, I would estimate it is running around .14 cents a link right now, which does make it cheaper than using Johns’ service (although she isn’t doing in web 2.0 creations).
I second using male usernames to help stay under the radar. I just go to the fakenamegenerator dot com website and have an entire identity created for each profile – address, phone number, and more. I think you should also avoid using gmail or yahoo addresses for sign ups, as well, as these mail services are often blocked.
It’s good to see you are starting to narrow in on what is working and what isn’t for your sites, Sara!
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Actually, on second thought, it’s much less than that… she creates 1200 profiles a month, but I generally leave three links per profile – so that’s 3600 links total, plus another 600 or so blog blueprints… so I guess it is more like six cents a link.
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Actually, John himself in his FAQ says that some forum profiles could be populated with more than one link. However, in order to be fair, the cost should be calculated as cost per action. Therefore, if you would know how much time your VA spends creating the backlinks, then you would know the cost of it too.
However, since the VA has a wider job description, it is difficult to know the exact cost of her backlinks, but it is obviously more advantageous from the financial point of view.
I believe is more a matter of choice, and not necessarily the costs; it is very convenient to buy a backlinking package instead of dealing with an employee and his entire family disasters, computer crashes, and whatnot.
Sure, and there are the costs of training your worker as well. I still imagine links are much cheaper in the long run with a VA, and you have the added advantage of being able to use them for other projects, but there are many other factors to consider as well. I actually may want to hire John to do more links for me, since I don’t want to take on the additional responsibility of hiring another worker at this point, but would like some additional forum profiles done.
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Dang, I usual use female names. Good to know.
Geesh, why can’t men mind their own business.
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Some might not do it if women didn’t reciprocate.
Just saying.
Or, you could hire a VA to do one or two MAS, UAW, and AMA runs every single day.
Even add in any other program you use like linkvana, BLS, magic submitter etc….
Sara,
Your article got me seriously thinking about purchasing a backlinks package.
But, regarding the VA, even if it’s more cost efficient to hire one, my worry is that all your business research is turned over to them. What’s to stop them from starting their own venture, using your niches, keywords, etc, that countless hours were spent researching. Even down to your backlinking strategy.
I think its fair to assume that most VA’s do not know much about internet marketing, especially because VA’s are typically just copying and pasting an article or link information that is provided to them.
I even found that of my 5 writers I have used only one of them had keyword experience. I had to explain the use of keywords to the rest of them. So I don’t think you would have to be afraid of them stealing your niches. I just figure if they were into building sites and getting them ranked, why would they be applying for VA jobs? That would just take up time from their own business.
“I just figure if they were into building sites and getting them ranked, why would they be applying for VA jobs?”
Maybe because they lost their income from MayDay.
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Finding a good VA who sticks with you is definitely better than buying any linkbuilding service including our own. However, the problem is the cost of the training of the VA is too steep if you value your time. And what is the assurance that your VA will not strike it out himself/herself or get employed by other people after your VA has gained mastery. What is your assurance that your VA is working only for you and is not the VA of 4 other people after you have spent your time training them? And this is exactly what happened to one of our clients. He found a VA at a cheaper rate and he spent time training the VA but he was always apprehensive that his VA is working for other people.
As with most other things in life, there are cheaper alternatives if you put up with a lot of frustrations but there are many people too who wanted a hassle-free solution. That is where we come in and that is our niche.
So what can you do to take it from #37 back to page 1. I have 2 sites like this, one is sitting at #17 and one at #11 but they don’t seem to want to budge. Is it all backlinking?
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Yes, Mike. You just have to continue back link building to move them.
Mike,
Build more backlinks. And try throwing other link types into the mix such Web 2.0 sites, Link Magnets, Profile Links, article marketing, bookmarking, etc..
After just dealing with writers I now lean towards paying more and using a service. Not only do you have to train people but you have to deal with their excuses sometimes and there is alot of trust needed. And from reading other people’s experience, the drop out rates always seem high.
I’d love to have someone reliable working for me but just don’t have the patience to train and put up with all the other stuff. I think it’s similar to the business world where high attrition rates can be very costly. When you put in the time to train someone you need to keep them around for awhile to get a return on your investment. If they leave, you have to start all over.
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I told you I’d try HARDER next time…sheesh
Your mom told me you couldn’t write, I should have listened.
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Checked this blog while doing a search on Baclink Philippines. Thanks for the helpful information. I used them for one of my sites and in the pagerank update, my site went from Pagerank N/A to Pagerank 3. Looking forward to another update.
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Amazing.. from n/a to pr 3, i think should be try this service. thank you !
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Thanks for this post, I was considering using backlinks philippines in the future. Now I am more confident. I will be following you in your journey to 5k
GL!
BTW, are you using any methods like backlink booster to get your backlinks indexed?
I think you all convinced me to sign up and start getting the back links. Lets see how it goes from here
I have used John and keep coming back again (and again and again).
He’s prompt, courteous, the reports are well organized, he lets me break up my packages into all sorts of mini projects… and best of all, the results have been great.
Hope that’s helpful to anyone on the fence…
I don’t think it’s because of the MayDay update, your sites got pushed down the SERPs because of penalty (sandbox)… have you been using the same anchor text for all the backlinks you’ve been building?
Hi Alan,
Hey, in your experience what size package would you go with for the first time?
My site has no back links and it’s about a month old.
I’m just getting started here, don’t know where to go, how much to spend, you know all that newbie stuff.
Thank you
Hi Joel,
This is John of http://www.backlinksphilippines.com. I would advise you to do the 80 backlinks package at first. You should keep adding articles and backlinks to your website. The linkbuilding must be gradual in the initial stages and then you increase your link building velocity as time goes by.
Hope this helps.
John
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nice one guys. but are you sure backlinkphilippines.com do it manually. before i happen to pay some bcklink provider but the links were coming from russian countries and websites
First of all i would like to congratulate you and i also want to use the service of that company to improve my website .
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Thanks